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Wynn sues Charles Barkley for gambling debt

10:13 AM PT, May 15 2008
Last month I interviewed music industry mogul Irving Azoff, and he told a story about a night in Vegas a few years ago with basketball great Charles Barkley and Tiger Woods. Azoff recalled that "a very drunk Charles Barkley challenged me to a game of golf. Tiger was going to place a large wager that I would beat Charles provided we went and played at once on that golf course down the Strip that was lighted. It was a very, very large wager, and luckily for Charles, who was so drunk he was cross-eyed, he chickened out at the last minute. Lucky for him, because we would have taken a lot of money." And, indeed that might count as luck in the life of Charles Barkley.

Sadly, Barkley has found plenty of other opportunities in town to place lopsided wagers favoring the house, and math has taken its course. Barkley made this point himself perfectly once on a TNT show: "But I've got to understand you can't beat the casino. You might win a lot of money from them but in the long run they are going to win more money from you." Back in 2006, Barkley estimated his own gambling losses at over $10 million on ESPN. Now, the Las Vegas Sun reports, Wynn resort has filed suit for $400,000 against Barkley for unpaid gambling markers the casino issued to Barkley last October.

Obviously, Barkley is not the only regular Vegas customer to face this predicament. As resorts hate press from these sorts of actions and especially because of Barkley's fame, you can bet the casino made every effort to collect from him before escalating to a court case.

I will add that I have interviewed Barkley twice in Vegas, and both times he seemed to be drinking heavily and talked about getting ready to gamble later.

He certainly is going to wind up having to pay Wynn. In Nevada, failure to make good on markers results in felony charges. But is it hopelessly naive to ask if there comes a point in a free culture where a resort should tell someone they need help instead of extending more credit? The resorts insist on calling gambling "gaming," yet the reality is that gambling isn't a game: If you play too long you will lose, and that is not a fun or recreational activity. The case of Charles Barkley is not unique.
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"But is it hopelessly naive to ask if there comes a point in a free culture where a resort should tell someone they need help instead of extending more credit? "

Yes, it is naive. Very Naive.

They are a business that is trying to maximize profits.

Charles Barkley is a grown man, who makes his own decisions, whether it is to drink, gamle or to drink and gamble.

He, and all others, accept the deal that the "house always wins" the moment they walk in the door.

i saw some pictures of Charlie gambling at the Wynn on http:www.badspace.com. Very interesting, very drunk!

Are you saying that the casinos stop breaking arms or knees if you don't pay your gambling debt?

Sounds like Mr Barkley needs a bailout, at taxpayers expense of course. These unscrupulous gambling houses took advantage of him while he was drinking. They also didn't let him know about the risks of gambling. He was taken advantage of and shouldn't be held responsible for his actions. Ok, how about if we get a judge to rewrite how much he owes the casino. He can't be expected to pay for this! I have a better idea, Mr. Barkley, give me the rest of your money and I will invest it sensibly for my own gain. Better than you just squandering it away.

Thank you.

Man that guy gambles like a MoFo. Well at least he is doing it in nice places. No surprise its at teh Wynn. Thats easily the best place in town.

living is a gamble

Wow what a great business model:
Provide free alcohol to your customers and loan them unlimited amounts of money to play 'games' in which statistically you always win, and collect on those debts later with the force of government law enforcement. It's one thing to take what they have in pocket, but to provide loans to intoxicated customers is akin to car rental places renting cars to drunks to drive on a track.

Doesn't Charles Barkley want to be the Govenor of Alabama in 2010?

Here's a guy who's known not just for his prowess on the basketball court but for his ten second soundbites where he would say just about anything. He had the whole world in his hand with his affable personality and charm and could have made a difference in so many people's lives.

Instead he has decided to be a sad clown who will have to remain an on TV for the rest of his career taking funny pot shots at other players in the NBA.

As Charles is famous for saying....."This hrrrrble, just hrrrble man!"

Get a life Charles, the one you are living now is becoming a waste.

My friend has a marker at Wynn...They want Full Payment after 10 Days of your Debt...CB should know that considering he knows how much he's down...He is good for it..400 Grand is nothing to him..No need to make this public

I think it's the concept of gambling as an addiction that's the problem.

Not him being a grown man. Murdering someone and facing the music is an act of taking due justice.

A continued addiction that is help and perpetuated by a dealer, which the casino is, is not a point were the victim 'owns up' so to speak.

if one agrees about addiction being a problem... then Barkley's case is different from a heroin addict by choice of substance alone, and should at least admit that this (casino) behavior is negligent at best predatory at worst.

Even if it was the case that all of these are meditated actions and there is no coercion at all in form of obsession or compulsion why as a freedom loving society would we allow one of our own citizens -- who no doubt would be more productive if not drunk and gambling -- to bankrupt and destroy himself?

if you want to say that each of these subsequent actions by Barkley to gamble (and apparently gamble lavishly) are independent choices each time reformulated with no concept of causal relation with the past, throwing any sense of compulsion or preference out the window and just assuming that someone that has money like Barkley who is insistent on squandering his wealth; even acknowledging that he is in fact going to ultimately lose is "a grown man"... well, yeah, you could do that... and the American educational system weeps.

I guess its time for Charles to call up T-Mobile in order to make another commercial. He's gonna more than NBA socks from D-Wade for his "footsies". But if I'm supposed to feel sorry for a multi-millionaire like Sir Charles, you got another thing coming.

All I want to know is when is he going to be back in Vegas again so I can meet up with him while he's in a drunkin' stooper in order to pull some of that dough my way instead of on the table.

I'll challenge him to a free-throwing contest and beat his ass....you can bet on it!

GINOBLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

Is this writer blaming the casino for Barkley proving once again that he is an idiot? The casino is absolutely correct in calling it gaming, it's only gambling if you are the patron, funny that you never see the pit boss with a drink in his hand, huh.

If a patron is obviously impaired, due to drinking or other reasons, then the casino should not allow them to continue gambling. Casinos are a state regulated business and the lifeblood of Nevada and they had better start acting like it rather than trying to victimize people with a drinking problem.

What happened to the good ole days when they just wacked you in the desert?

I have always thought Charles was a wonderful person. He says things the way he sees them. I respect his opinion. It is very sad that he has a gambling problem. I wish him nothing but the best in getting a handle on it. I'd like to see him quit drinking and gambling both. I hate hearing this stuff about about people I admire.

Sorry to hear Tiger is hangin with Barkley

I think it is fair for the state of Nevada to protect it's main source of income by making the failure to make good on markers results in felony charges. It would also be entirely fair for all other states (which don't allow gambling on their own soil) to refuse to extradite based on gambling related charges.

I wonder if he has the 400,000 to be able to pay it off? Barkley has been out of the NBA for some time now and I don't know if he still makes that kind of money anymore. He is pals with both Jordan and Tiger but they are still getting paid so they can afford to lose that type of money. But as far as I know all Barkley has is his TV job at TNT. I would hate to see him on ESPN broke and homeless but if his reskless ways continue he will be. Take care and I'm gone.

3 to 1 he doesn't pay.

Double or nothing! Put it all on red Charles! Whoohoo!

Barkley is a good example of a man that had a lot of athletic ability, but dead from the neck up!


It's obvious that Charles Barkley has some serious self-esteem issues.
Yes, he knows basketball,
but this same old tired act of playing the overweight buffoon is getting tiresome.
Probably seeing a shrink could help him come to terms with the fact that he was a very good basketball player,
just not a great one.

TomD: your comment above is classic. Great "business model" indeed. People should not feel sympathy for either Barkley or the Wynn or whatever casino he didn't pay. Both are trying to rip off the other. A casino is a gambling house where it takes advantage of people's weaknesses (such as Barkley's). The fact that many people can spare being weak (can go and gamble for "fun" and entertainement) doesn't change what it does. Barkly, although i like him, is a fool in this regard tho.

Passing a bad check to a casino is a felony in Nevada. Being in posession of a cheating device in a Nevada casino is a felony, even if you don't use it. Nevada protects its money train. Few states are so dependent on a single industry for so much revenue, so I can't really blame them. But I don't think any other state shouls cooperate with enforcing those laws. I saw a special on cheating casinos once where a guy made counterfeit slot tokens. He used them in riverboat casinos, and the cops knew where he lived. But they couldn't raid his operation since he lived in a state that had no gambling and thus no laws banning the making of counterfeit slot tokens.

I think Charles is safe if he can stay out of Nevada. However, do you think $400K will keep him out of Nevada? I say he'll settle. He still has income from broadcasting and commercials.

Those businesses may be a bit exploitive but at least patrons know what's coming. They are flying into Nevada and walking into a casino. And Charles isn't exactly a first-timer. Much worse are state lottos, which effectively turn every store in a state into a really crummy casino. Lottos might not get patrons drunk, but they do prey on the poor.

I've always liked Barkley and his sense of humor, but I'd never vote for a man with a vice like that for governor. At least with drugs or hookers, there is only so much product you can use, and only so much you can spend. With gambling, the house will take any size bet that favors themselves, so the sky's the limit.

If you gamble away $10M, you just need to have the rest of your money taken away and given to people who are really in need and don't do this kind There is no excuse for Mr. Barkley. Millions of Americans work for nothing. We can't even afford to walk into a casino, let alone throw away such vast quantities of cash. I guess it just shows how broken and messed up this world (and our precious country) really is.

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